(Note: This story appears in the February 2022 issue of SE Magazine)
The team at adultmart has built a four-state, 30-store empire on the foundation of communication.
GVA-TWN/adultmart owner Rondee Kamins and her executive team, Debi Yoskey and Jill Arstone, collaboratively oversee the historic distributorshipĀ and 30-store adult retail chain. The three have worked together for 30-plus years.
SEās Larry Kaplan sat down for a roundtable discussion with the Cleveland execs to understand how they keep the gears of the adult industry pioneer spinning and what they see for the future of adult retail.
SE: Rondee, after 40 years in adult retail, what would you say to someone interested in opening a store?
KAMINS: This isnāt an easy business; itās not cookie-cutter; you must do the work. Youāve got to have some balls and a strong attorney. Weāve long worked with Mike Murray; heās great in court. I love that man.
SE: You currently have 30 stores?
KAMINS: Thatās correct. Iām in Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. At one time, we had 45 stores.
SE: Youāve dramatically changed the stores since you came on board 40 years ago. Whoās your average demographic today?
KAMINS: It varies. Besides our modern stores, I have some old-time stores in cities like Wheeling (West Virginia). But surprisingly, we do get couples in Wheeling. We still have male customers at all our stores, but we have a lot of couples and women.
SE: Are the men you get today a different male demographic than the trench coat crowd you had 40 years ago?
KAMINS: Yes. Men coming in now may have specific problems they donāt want to share with their doctor. Weāre not doctors, but we have suggestions. And thatās the best part of what we do. Besides making fantasies come true, we help people. My staff emails me regularly about connections theyāve made. Iām not in the stores often, but itās a feel-good for everybody when I can share positive emails with the entire company.
SE: You take a non-traditional approach to overseeing your stores with your executive team working on everything as a group. Tell me why you chose that approach and how it benefits you.
KAMINS: I surround myself with smart people with great ideas. Nobody is new here. Most store management has been around for 5-10 years. For regional management,
itās 15-20 years. Our most important asset is the communication between stores and corporate. Without that, you miss a lot. Jill does a lot of buying, but I donāt call her the buyer because that would pigeonhole her. Jill and Debi are very crafty. Theyāll remodel an entire store ā something buyers wouldnāt do. Debi buys lingerie and also does social media. Sheās very in-tune to whatās going on in our stores. Everybody at corporate has tasks related to the stores. Otherwise, theyād miss out.
Weāre here early and all day, always trying to figure out how to do it better. I think it will always be like this because itās in our blood. The only way to get better is to figure out what youāre doing wrong. Itās like a puzzle.

SE: Thomas Edison said, āGenius is one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration.ā
YOSKEY: The success on the retail side is also our success, in more ways than one. Iām always planning and setting monthly and yearly goals. Whatever we have to do to achieve that success, make things better, and move forward.
KAMINS: It takes a village. All the cogs must be in sync. Without everybody here doing their part, we donāt get everything to the stores; they canāt do the training. We have very open communication with emails and people replying. We are always talking to everybody, whether itās wishing everybody happy holidays, something silly, or whatever. That open communication helps this company, probably more than I can tell you.
I feel that as devastating as the COVID closures were, this company has come back even stronger than before. We have a lot of good things going on right now. And ultimately, that shows in retail sales.
SE: What are your biggest challenges in running the company today?
KAMINS: In the last six months, weāve had issues getting product, but itās getting better. Thankfully, we make our own stuff, so we have that inventory. But distributors and manufacturers were having trouble filling orders.
Hiring help today is also a huge challenge, no matter what we pay. I havenāt resumed our pre-COVID store hours because I wouldnāt be able to staff them, and Iām not sure I ever will.
And weāre still having problems getting new locations. Simply opening a store with no arcade ā just toys, lube, and lingerie is almost as hard as a full-blown DVD store. We use the brand name adultmart. We also use the brand name Room801, with the tagline āWhere Sexy Comes To Play.ā Any new store we open now is opening as a Room801. The biggest mistake I ever made was calling the stores adultmart.
SE: Unlike other stores, youāve developed your own product line. How do your products do in sales?
ARSTONE: Explorotica is the best-selling line in our stores. We make toys, liquids, enhancers, and candles. We make 200-plus products, and our 150 top-selling SKUs are Explorotica. That shows how the business has changed. Weāre not the only company to private label. You control your inventory, and Amazon isnāt undercutting you.

SE: Does that success with your Explorotica products speak to your salespeopleās relationships with the customers? That theyāll trust their recommendations to buy your brand over name brands?
KAMINS: It does. But we donāt sell products our sales associates havenāt tried. We send samples, and if they disapprove, we donāt make it. Theyāre on the front line; they must be part of the process. We encourage them to help name products, too ā that way, they feel ownership. They come up with ideas often.
SE: They can take pride in everything that your name is on.
YOSKEY: Exactly. And thatās something that wasnāt happening before, even 10 years ago.
SE: How do you choose vendors?
YOSKEY: Many times, it has to do with personal relationships. Do they want to be part of your team or just take an order and move on to the next?
KAMINS: Weāre looking for somebody amenable to taking risks with us. We need partners, not salespersons. So we veer towards people willing to provide testers and do trainings. Weāre about relationships. We still do business with a handshake.
āWeāre not doctors, but we have suggestions. And thatās the best part of what we do. Besides making fantasies come true, we help people. My staff emails me regularly about connections theyāve made. Iām not in the stores often, but itās a feel-good for everybody when I can share positive emailsĀ with the entire company.ā ā Rondee Kamins
SE: With so much product coming out, how do you sift through everything to ensure that youāre achieving your ROI?
KAMINS: Weāre always looking to private label first. Can we sell it to our own stores? Is it something theyāve been requesting? Weāre not interested in a seven-inch straight vibe because we donāt need it, no matter what youāve done to it. Now, if you have a five-and-a-half-inch vibe thatās curved that our stores have asked about, weāll look at it.
SE: What are your biggest pet peeves when buying product?
KAMINS: When we buy something for the stores under the manufacturerās label then find it on Amazon. We quickly discontinue that item and never carry it again.
YOSKEY: I hate picking something up because the vendor said youāre missing the boat if you donāt buy this. Then we order it, and itās on backorder. Why have me order it if you canāt fulfill it?
ARSTONE: It annoys me when somebody says theyāre presenting a new item, then explains that chains X, Y, and Z are doing great with it. Is that their pitch? Buy it because 10 stores already have it?
KAMINS: Today, one person represents 15 different companies and doesnāt know anything about anything. Donāt bother even sending them out; my staff will chew them up and spit them out.
SE: Whatās the strongest trend in adult retail currently?
KAMINS: Knowledge. The more we train our people, the better served we are. People have internet; they research everything. They want honest, clear answers to their questions. For a brick-and-mortar retailer to succeed, you must provide something value-added to motivate customers to come into your store instead of ordering on Amazon. The knowledge and training our staff takes very seriously sets us apart and is why we survive.
YOSKEY: When Jill and I visit stores, the staffās knowledge is amazing to me; itās outstanding. I have different knowledge; I donāt have that selling ability and product knowledge.
SE: You mentioned supply chain issues. You have longer-term distributor relationships than most because of your longevity in the industry. Have your distributor relationships been tested during COVID?
KAMINS: They have, and only two distributors were prepared. Part of our original reason for private labeling was to control inventory and avoid backorders. The first item we private branded was toy cleaner because itās a no-brainer. We brought 50,000 bottles into the building, and we never run out. We quickly added a vibrator.
Now, if I see something that isnāt from these two vendors who can ship everything, we just private label it. We own our top pieces. Weāre stocked for a few months.
SE: Has inflation forced you to raise prices? If so, by how much?
KAMINS: Whenever manufacturers raise prices, we follow. 2021 was quite a chaotic year. Some manufacturers raised prices multiple times last year. I believe products like silicone lube will be priced right out. With markup, youāll be paying $40 for a four-ounce silicone lube. But, of course, the customers wonāt pay it, so theyāll either make the bottles smaller or you find a different way.
I hate picking something up because the vendor said youāre missing the boat if you donāt buy this. Then we order it, and itās on backorder. Why have me order it if you canāt fulfill it? ā Debi Yoskey
SE: What about toys and soft goods? Have they gone up as much?
KAMINS: A few manufacturers did multiple price changes last year, but nothing too crazy. I feel the door has been opened ā 2022 will be a crazy price-changing year.
SE: What do you look for when hiring new sales associates for your stores, assuming you can find people today?
KAMINS: The only thing we look for is outgoing personalities. We really live by the word, we can train the product, but we canāt train the personality. You either have one or you donāt.
SE: What do you consider the greatest existential threats to adult retail today?
KAMINS: The ability to buy a vibrator at CVS ā they may not call it a vibratory, but thatās what it is. Goop, Nordstrom, Bloomingdaleās, and all these mainstream luxury brands stores are carrying toys now.
Another threat is manufacturers selling directly to retailers. Weāve lost more customers to manufacturers than to other distributors. Itās pathetic and sickening. We canāt play that game; we canāt match that price. My father would have gone after these manufacturers for selling to stores direct. We spent $250,000 for legal fees to keep the stores and manufacturers alive; we need to make those sales. When STOREROTICA sends out the survey asking how distributors could do better, what if manufacturers supported distributors and didnāt sell direct to retailers?
Larry Kaplan has been the Legal Correspondent for ED Publications for 21 years. Mr. Kaplan is a broker in the sale and purchase of adult retail stores and adult nightclubs and the Executive Director of the ACE of Michigan adult nightclub state trade association. Contact Larry Kaplan at 313-815-3311 or email larry@kaplanstoresales.com.
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